Adi Da Samraj Pushes Male Anal Sex by Heterosexuals as a Form of Humiliation and Emasculation of Devotees in Adidam

Adi Da use of anal sex between male heterosexuals as a means of domination and emasculation

You don't have to answer, but I believe this is the first I've heard of men being forced to have anal sex. Was this only about emasculation, or do you think Da is bi? Did you ever see Da have sex with another man or vice versa? (I guess this would answer the bi question vs. the emasculation vs. whatever else was going on) Please don't feel obliged to answer, unless you are moved to do so.

"Forced" is not perhaps the right word. Pressured and led to believe that this situation would make the person grow, in a large peer group in which everyone is doing his bidding, is more correct.

No, I have never seen Adi Da have sexual relations with a man. As far as I know he has not. But it's possible. He has had men do what I described, things like fuck a woman he isn't in a relationship with while telling the man how ugly he is, then having another man come over and have anal sex with the guy. He has liked for years to see men made up with lipstick, eyeliner and such. I remember a picture I saw from years back, a group photo that included good ol' Sal Luciana in panties, stockings, garter belt, bra and heels -- all black. That picture was a hoot, really it was!

Dolphin: There's a place for boundary breaking I think. But it can be a kind of sadism also.

It's quite a scene really. Quite a scene. Fellini-esque, except, quite honestly, I never felt that flabby, flaccid, degenerate feeling around him.

All of Da's sexual activities served at least two functions: the emasculation/ denigration of men, and the satisfaction of his base need for sex with as many (beautiful) females as possible. Posters described Adi Da's habit of fornicating with just about every male devotee's wife as more evidence of his emasculation of men. There was also talk of Adi Da's practice and instruction to male devotees to be "rough" with their women -- how bruises, black eyes, and so forth were considered signs -- for long periods in the cult's history -- of women coming to accept their proper subservient role to men.

But, more importantly, he craves POWER over others and particularly enjoys humiliating them. What better way to do this than to have them act out sexually in these ways? The willingness of Devotees to go so far PROVES to Da how much power he has over them, and this is what really gets him off, in my honest opinion. I heard of an incident not many years ago, where Da asked a long-time male Devotee to give him a blowjob. I sincerely doubt that he wanted the sexual satisfaction of this caress from a middle aged man, but wanted to test the Dev's willingness to SUBMIT to his request, regardless of how outrageous. The man refused (GOOD FOR YOU), and eventually left the Community. What amazes me is that it still goes on.

A can't believe a 100% hetero would want another man sucking him off! If he wanted the guy to submit only, he could have him do it to someone else. Personally, I find nothing wrong with middle-aged men, and plenty of bi men and gay don't need a boy to get off quite happily. Sorry for my sordid thinking, folks.

I think at some point, the sadism and the desire to dominate become more powerful than one's sexual orientation.

Adi Da is a classic narcissist, whose sadism and need to emasculate/ disempower others stems from his sheer blindness to others.

Adi Da's corrupting influence on others is seen in the immoral conduct of his inner circle of devotees. It is here, most especially, where we see his frequently demeaning "crazy wisdom" and "theater" as being but shallow cover for his narcissistic need to exert power and control over people. Indeed, many people have noted that Adi Da possesses an utter disgust and contempt for his students. Why else would he have them defecate on one another and engage in anal sex, even if they weren't otherwise inclined to do so? These are no more "inspired teachings" than medieval torture was "transcendental release".

Posted by Snookums on Jul-5-04 9:17pm

I'm not going to say who some of the guys are, that's not right to do. They have to live with it themselves. But it [i.e. Adi Da directing heterosexual males to have anal sex with each other] happened, it happened a lot.

Does anyone wonder why all those people who go to "Level 2" end up back in the ashram, then often leaving, sworn to secrecy, and looking hurt and shocked? That kind of stuff is why. It's him. It's what he does. He loves to do that to straight guys. He's psychic about where people are at and how to totally fuck them up sexually. Not every guy had it happen. He knows when a guy is too dangerous to do that to, and who will crumble. He's really good at that.

Some of those guys are really hurt. Let me tell you! When a woman sees her man get raped by other guys, she has a hard time respecting him afterward. She never forgets it, and that he let it happen. HE knows that! It's one of the reasons he does it. He really knows how to manipulate people like that.