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Adi Da’s private persona: a nasty, moody, self-obsessed prima donna
from
Elias' 2000 article "Daism Report #4: The New Pattern."
Sources
paint a quite different picture of what goes on behind the scenes [than what
most devotees think about him]. When the veil is pulled away, and 'the man
behind the curtain' is revealed, Frank (Adi Da) comes across as incessantly
foul-mouthed, petty, nagging, totally self-obsessed and controlling. His
life is a constant stream of decision-making about his hobbies and his
possessions. He obsesses about money, and he micro-manages virtually every
detail of ashram life. Among his intimates he often refers to the devotees
as 'dummies,' 'damn phonies,' 'kiss-ass retards,' and 'high-faluting egos'
who 'diddle me with their crap.' (And those are only a few of the nice
things he says about his followers.) His private conversation is laced with
obscenities.... Anybody who dares to stand up to his bullying is quickly
sent packing.... Sources report that he has to be handled with kid gloves at
all times. He will begin to ruminate obsessively about some detail and be
unable to get off it, until one of his wives skillfully directs his
attention to something else -- sort of like the way you treat a child or a
mental patient.....
Heresy for Dummies
Posted by Broken Yogi on Sep-19-03 3:02am
Zardoz,
There’s more than one Adidam myth. They get juggled around depending on what
Adi Da has or hasn’t done recently. Sometimes he’s loving, sometimes
angry. The basic “myth” is that he is so far beyond everything he might seem
to do that it isn’t comprehensible, and therefore we shouldn't even ask
ourselves these questions - it might lead us down the road to heresy.
As one very highly placed devotee told me not long ago,
Adi Da doesn’t give a damn about the body-mind. I pointed out that this
wasn’t true of his own body-mind - he seems to care a great deal about that
- but it is true that he seems not to care much about the body-minds of his
devotees. He pushes them and creates all kinds of distress in their
body-minds, and this is considered “okay”, because he is trying to get
devotees to move beyond the body-mind. And then, when he seems to actually
show some concern about a devotee’s bodily problems, and acts with even the
slightest degree of loving energy, this is seen as a sign of his profound
love for all beings, when in fact it is more like a miser’s throwing a few
coins at some beggar in the gutter.
Yes, occasionally
Adi Da can be very
loving towards people, and it seems very genuine and moving, but let’s not
pretend that happens very often. When it does, everyone makes such a big
deal out of it precisely because it is so uncommon. Adi Da phases between
being self-satisfied, and being angry, sarcastic, bitter, disappointed,
displeased and critical. Occasionally he may be loving in the outward sense
of things, but even that is considered something one should not place any
great faith in, because he will be a bastard the very next moment as he sees
fit. So the myth that arises to explain this is that it is all for the
benefit of the devotee, or his own body-mind is just completely “vulnerable”
and easily hurt, or that he doesn’t need to show his love to others in any
obviously visible way, or any number of other excuses/explanations.
I’ve also talked to devotees who report that Adi Da can be extraordinarily
angry for hours on end, and then just suddenly drop it and joke as if
nothing had ever disturbed him, as if his anger meant nothing to him. One
could either consider this to be a sign of Divine Indifference of
psychopathology. One wonders what to make of such a “God”.
Posted by Broken Yogi on Jul-29-03 12:49am
Okay, you have at least mentioned some kind of criteria for a "free" person:
the ability to let go of reactive emotion the instant it is done being
animated.
How then can you explain the fact that Adi Da does not let go of his
reactive emotions towards those who do not sufficiently love him, but
instead keeps them going for days, weeks, months and years? He keeps these
reactive emotions of his spinning like a one of those circus performers
spinning plates in the air. Do we ever see then end of them? Give him a
paperweight, and for a brief period he is happy, then a day or so later he's
pissed again, over the same things, and never seems to let it go and move
on. Where exactly is the freedom in that.
And you, O Free One, can't free yourself from your cycle of reactive
emotions to those who criticize Adi Da. You keep coming back here for no
purpose at all except to dramatize your reactive emotions. If you were free,
could you not just let it all go, and stop reacting to everyone here? Seems
impossible.
As for Adi Da's reactions to me, no, they don't seem to have come to an end
either.
So both you and Adi Da don't seem to meet your own criteria for freedom. How
is that possible? Will you have to come up with new criteria, or just
pretend there's no contradiction when it stares you in the face?
Let's see
him drop it for a year
Posted by Broken Yogi on Jul-29-03 1:19am
Wow, you dropped it
(your habit of posting to the forum) for a month? And I bet you were really
proud of yourself too!
The problem isn't whether you post here or not, it's whether you bring your
reactive emotion to the people here. I havent seen you drop that one bit.
So Adi Da can drop his anger long enough to say hi to someone. You think that's
a big deal. Just about anyone can do that much. You don't have to be an Avatar
to let go of anger long enough to pay the clerk at the store or some such minor
encounter with someone immaterial to your anger. What I'd like to see is Adi Da
just drop his anger for an extended period of time and actually love and embrace
his devotee unconditionally. He used to preach unconditional love, but when does
he practice it? His love is completely dependent on conditions of all kinds. And
when the conditions are not met, what happens? Reactive emotion happens. How on
earth is this "free"?
If Adi Da were genuinely "free" in his anger, wouldn't he exhibit it for no
reason at all, just for the hell of it, out of the blue? But he never does that.
He only gets angry - like the rest of us assholes - when he is frustrated and
not getting what he wants. When he gets what he wants, he's happy as a clam,
when not, not. Doesn't sound like "free" emotion at all, or it wouldn't always
be tied to whether or not he gets what he wants.
Capische?
Posted by Broken Yogi on Jul-29-03
I don’t get what I want either. In fact, no one ever gets exactly what they
want. That's life. It doesn't mean anyone has the right to make other
people's lives a living hell of frustrated demands because one isn't getting
what they want.
Sure, maybe
Adi Da is upset because his devotees aren't enlightened. But that still
doesn't explain why he, the enlightened one, can't transcend that
frustration and live a life of love instead. Simply doesn't make sense at
all. Instead of transcending that frustration, he seems to blame everyone
else for it, in the pattern of the narcissist who can't endure even the
slightest frustration of his desires.
Yes, the open hand could slap you silly, but why would it want to? Why would
an enlightened being who has fully opened himself to God want to deface that
enlightenment by slapping people around.
Adi Da himself once used something like this analogy to explain why it is
that once enlightened, one never abandons it. He told the story of how in
his freshman year at Columbia, they had a "health class" which was basically
a kind of sex-education session where a lot of these very naive kids could
ask all those weird questions teenagers in the '50's needed to ask. So one
kid asks the professor if, while having sex with a woman, it would still be
possible to urinate. The Professor thinks about this a while and says,
"Well, yes, I believe it's possible. But why would one want to?" And
Adi Da made the point that yes, it would of course be possible to lose
enlightenment once one had awakened, but why would one want to? Why, being
fully conscious of the whole matter, would one choose to deface it? Like
pissing on a woman while having sex with her?
Adi Da's point was that the enlightened would simply not choose to do
anything unenlightened. But this raises the question with
Adi Da - if enlightened, why would he choose to slap people around rather
than love them? Why would he choose to constantly piss on his devotees
rather than embrace them? Why use an "open hand" to emulate the very same
behavior as a closed fist? What then is the difference between the two?
Would not choosing to emulate a closed fist actually close that open hand?
You do become what you meditate on. So perhaps
Adi Da
has awakened but chosen to be unenlightened for reasons we can only
speculate about. In either case, it doesn't work to enlighten anyone. The
evidence suggests that very clearly.
Adi Da cares about no one but himself
Posted by Broken Yogi on Jul-28-04
I
appreciate the fact that you’re willing to put forth controversial
statements, and some of what you say even rings true, but there’s some
glaring inconsistencies.
For example, it’s almost true that Adi Da’s philosophy is “I don’t give a
rats ass about you me or anyone else as a born entity," except for the part
about “me”. Adi Da certainly does give a very large rat’s stinky ass about
his own “born person”, and he expects everyone else to do so also. Now he
may claim that he doesn’t care about “Franklin Jones”, but he most certainly
does care about “Adi Da”, and how the body-mind of Adi Da is cared for,
treated, sucked and fucked, wined and dined, ensconced in luxury, served
hand and foot, you name it. And everyone in Adidam knows this damned well.
So while it’s true that Adi Da doesn’t care about the bodily lives of his
devotees, he most certainly does care about his own bodily life, raising it
to the level of the primary directive, that all his devotee’s bodily lives
should be sacrificed for the slightest requirement of his own bodily life.
If this is the definition of “selfless service to others”, it’s a new one to
me.
Now of course there’s nothing like that in Buddhism, or any other path I
know of. It’s certainly not “the Guru’s point of view” in any of the Guru
traditions. It’s just Adi Da’s point of view, and “uniquely so”. There’s no
tradition, even ones that view the Guru as transcending individuality and
separate self, which relate to the bodies of the Guru and his devotees in
this manner. It’s pure nihilism, pure hatred of life, not liberation or
salvation or serving the enlightenment of all beings. The Guru tradition is
not about treating devotees as cannon fodder for the Guru’s own comfort and
pleasure, and “undoing” them by ignoring, exploiting, or destroying their
bodily life. The Guru traditions may at times use harsh discipline, but the
genuine ones are generally quite moderate. The Buddha explicitly warned
against this very approach, and never practiced it himself. Same with Ramana,
and most other genuine realizers. Even Adi Da at one time preached the same
dharma, saying that his teaching recommended a benignly sattvic, pleasurable
life, not an ascetical one. And yet that changed over the years to the
stressful, cannon-fodder approach of tearing people apart for his amusement
and personal advantage.
You have to ask yourself, what bodily sacrifices has Adi Da made for his
devotees? One would be hard pressed to find a single one. If the Adi Da is a
casual meal eaten by lovers, I’d like to know when he’s ever acted in such a
manner. Quite to the contrary, devotees are the meal he casually eats while
they scream and writhe.
Your suggestion that Buddhism is opposed to democracy and compassion is
utterly absurd and demented, and you only put forth such ideas to somehow
justify Adi Da’s compassionless approach. If you want to defend or advocate
Adi Da’s way of going about things, fine, but don’t pretend that Buddhism
supports your view. It doesn’t. Loving compassion towards others is at the
center of Buddha’s practice, and this kind of attempt to destroy the
devotee’s ego through crushing demands and inhuman authoritarianism is
utterly foreign to the way he taught, both verbally and in actual practice.
Early Buddhism may not have been democratic in the purely political sense of
putting things to a vote, but it was in the general sense of lacking any
significant hierarchical structure, and treating all devotees equally, and
in the process utterly discarding the highly hierarchical, authoritarian,
class-based system of Hinduism and its castes and priesthoods.
But I know that yours is a view commonly perpetuated in Adidam, and people
there will believe it to be true, even historically, in spite of tremendous
evidence to the contrary. Face it, the only real precedents for Adi Da’s way
of working with devotees are Jonestown and all the other petty authoritarian
cults that have appeared throughout history. That’s why he call his
avatarship the “Mummery-Ashvamedha” incarnation. He’s “incarnated” as a
cult-leader of the most mediocre kind, not within the tradition of Sat-Gurus
and Living Buddhas. Defend it all you want, but do so honestly, not
pretending the traditions support his approach.
Post to KW Forum by
anonymous in 1999:
I saw Adi Da get
extremely upset and angry over the smallest things that didn’t go exactly as he
wanted them. He was a prima donna and acted like the world revolved around him.
This quote below comes from Adi Da's own organization, Adidam. It was offered as
a Leela. The "Him" is Adi Da.
"Another umbrella was promptly sent up to Him--an umbrella that
seemed perfectly sound and functional when Quandra Sukha Mai tested it before
sending it to Beloved. But when He attempted to use it, it broke. This and other
similar incidents that night brought Beloved to a point of complete Frustration.
It seemed to Him, He said, that accepting even the simplest services from
devotees only introduced more chaos and difficulty. He asked the Quandra Mai to
leave Him--He wished to be in total Seclusion."
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