Adi Da's Pussy Posse helps him procure Playboy Centerfold Miss September (Julie Anderson aka Whitney Kane)
posted on the Daism Forum by ex-cultist ~ 9-13-99
Back in the good old days, Bubba's lieutenants had standing orders to rope in the hottest babes for the personal enjoyment of the kingpin himself. Sal was the acknowledged head of the "pussy posse", but we all cooperated in it just by letting it happen, and even encouraging it. We knew what Bubba wanted. One summer, we hit on a real gold mine. Miss September was going to be joining the community within the next few weeks, and the word was out. This was exciting news. We couldn't wait.
It was perfectly obvious to all of us what was going to happen when she got here. Bubba had always taken what he wanted. No one else was entitled to a trophy like this but him, in our minds, and surely, in his. I found out by talking to Craig Lesser that he was "on point" to make sure Miss September got to Bubba right away when she arrived down in San Francisco. It was all set up. Bubba had always taken his fair share of fresh meat when it came in, and it was pretty much an accepted occurrence. So this was just going to be a replay of what we had already seen over and over with other women who were ripped off by Bubba from the guys they joined with.
Lesser delivered the goods, and Bubba was just thrilled. That night at Bubba's house, Sal, Craig and Bubba got these kids just wasted out of their minds. Bubba would just gaze at September (Julie) and nod his head in encouragement when she huffed in big hits off some really killer skunk weed. No doubt he thought it was a good idea for her to be loosened up. Jack Daniels flowed. Sal and Lesser were bringing the drinks one after another. I watched in amusement. This chick was totally hot, and she just loved all the attention. These kids, who couldn't have been out of their teens, had now become thoroughly trashed. Mark got pretty sick about this time.
After awhile, Sal and a couple of other guys hauled Mark out of the house and sent him away outside so Bubba could make his move. We all knew it was coming. Julie was being showered with attention by Bubba and everyone else in the room. We never had anyone so glamorous there before. Bubba turned on the charm. It was all too perfect.
Meanwhile, Mark kept coming back into the house. He didn't seem to get the message that they wanted him out of the way. Bubba had Sal take Mark out. He came back again, and they made him leave again. This went on a number of times. I don't think Mark had any idea what was going on. Finally, they just made him stay out. The magic started to happen with Bubba and September. She was pretty spacy, but just gorgeous, young and ripe for the pickin´.
The other wives knew what was coming, and they actually charmed her too. However, I don't think Bubba quite pulled it off with her that first night.
The next night at Bubba's they got the kids super wasted again, and this time they just bounced Mark out after a few hours. Bubba moved in for the kill, and that night he closed the deal with his biggest prize of all, the Bunny. The rest, as they say, is history.
A few days later the beaming couple went off on a whirlwind honeymoon, I think to Palm Springs, but I don't remember.
Mark was around for a couple of days at the property, shadowed every minute by Lesser. We were all wondering how he would take it. He looked like he had been hit by a truck, all dazed and confused. Lesser said Mark was cool about everything, and that he promised Lesser not to tell his family or anyone on the outside about what happened. He was committed to Bubba and willing to be tested in any way that was required.
We all accepted that Bubba's acquisition of this hot new property was a truly auspicious event of great cosmic significance, naturally. It was a sign we were really going to be incarnating out into the world.
Meanwhile, we continued to smoke those big fat doobies and consider our enlightenment. Towards the end of that period, I think Bubba got scared things were too far out of control. Sal was getting too powerful and weird stuff was going on in the households. He eventually shut everything down and made people go straight (i.e. no more partying). He moved to Hawaii and kicked out Sal. With Sal gone, the pussy posse was never the same, but don't think for a minute it ceased to exist.
Editor: The pussy posse of the early days apparently was transformed into a more formal and almost "corporate" process of procurement via the kanya considerations, although there was no doubt always an "informal and spontaneous" process where Adi Da hit on who ever he wanted, when ever he wanted.
Kanya considerations (a Kanya is sexual partner of Adi Da)
Posted by Sam on Mar-13-03
A number of years ago, must have been around 1996, a kanya consideration was going on. Any woman who felt physically attracted to Adi Da could put herself forward as a possible. I had a close friend out in the regions who did this. She went through an intense cycle of “notes” from Adi Da where she would be called at all times of the day and night to respond to him, disclosing every minutiae of detail about herself sexually and emotionally. She had to do this while trying to function normally in the world with a fulltime job. She also forwarded numerous pornographic photos of herself in poses she had been told he would like. Our womens groups would have naked sessions and take lots of photos of each other in order to “serve” her by getting her to loosen up.
Adi Da came back with all sorts of harsh criticisms and eventually told her he could never be interested in a woman as fat as her. She might have been a little chubby but wasn’t particularly overweight. She was at least 30 years his junior.
Of course she has always seen the event as a “blessing”. The women devotees, including myself, were jealous at that time not to have been in her position. I now am totally thankful I never opened myself up to this type of abuse. Adi Da always preaches the Sacrament of Universal Sacrifice but I have never heard of an instance where Adi Da has demonstrated vulnerability or a reciprocal human intimacy with his female play things.
I have another friend who eventually did become a kanya for a while a few years back. She told me she woke up one morning in his bed – she couldn’t remember how she got there. Once again, she’s over 30 years his junior. Despite him saying that there will never be another kanya consideration, she’s obsessed with getting back in there.
I was also there when a devotee asked Elisabeth Brown, his longtime companion, how she coped with Adi Da fucking whoever he pleased. She responded by saying she doesn’t allow herself to think about it – if she did, she would probably go crazy.
What kind of drug(s) is Adi Da having his victims use now?
Posted by Jerry on Mar-14-03
Sam wrote: "I have another friend who eventually did become a kanya for a while a few years back. She told me she woke up one morning in his bed – she couldn’t remember how she got there."
Will some Daist please tell me how this serves the spiritual development of this woman? How does one interpret this event in relation to the mountains of pretentious spiritual writings and claims of Adi Da about who he is, what he does, and how the process of spiritual practice as applied to sexuality works?
What kind of drugs is Adi Da using with/on these women now?
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And this Elizabeth Brown is an advanced practitioner?
Posted by what a load of crap. on Mar-14-03
"I was also there when a devotee asked Elizabeth Brown, his longtime companion, how she coped with Adi Da fucking whoever he pleased. She responded by saying she doesn’t allow herself to think about it – if she did, she would probably go crazy."
What a profound response from Elizabeth Brown! This really convinces me that she's a mature practitioner!
Really, this just shows what kinds of mind-fuck games and what forms of denial people are willing to go through because of their weak dependency on Adi Da. Without these people, Adi Da would never have built the empire that helped him enslave so many people.
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Re: And this is an advanced practitioner?
Posted by anonymous on Mar-14-03
ps. she (Elizabeth) had a nervous breakdown in late 90's, and was sent back to her parents for a "rest". This is typical of Daism, if they break or cause trouble, get rid if them. She was a mess as I remember before she left, and appeared ragged from serving her "lord" 24/7.
I remember the Kanya considerations
Posted by obo on Mar-14-03
There was a young lady in our region, a pre-student like myself, who was involved in that particular "kanya consideration". She was required to submit photos of herself posed in a short nightie. I recall her being quite stressed out as she frantically tried to find a photographer who would take her right away. Adi Da wanted the photos NOW and you don't keep the avatar waiting on something like that.
And I wondered what was going on. Of course, I was aware that Adi Da had multiple sexual partners, and in principle I didn't have a problem with that. But my understanding was that any sex which occurred was only a minor part of an essentially renunciate spiritual practice. (Silly me.) Now here was a total beginner under consideration for the most advanced esoteric order, and how she looked in a nightie was apparently a very important factor for qualification. But then, I thought to myself, as I often did when confronted by a disturbing sign, "Well, he's the god-man; guess he knows what he's doing; must be a teaching demonstration of some sort." Indeed. It's amazing what a person can be willing to swallow once they believe someone is divine. Embarrassing to think of it now.
Anyway, she ended up being rejected and I heard second-hand some of the mocking comments made to and about her by Adi Da and his concubines. She was then screamed at over the phone by Frans Bakker's wife about how there was no way she could not go under vow immediately, now that the god-man had just bestowed such a generous amount of his divine attention on her. Of course, she herself did not consider this whole business degrading and so she took the vow.
I don't normally remember many of my dreams, but I recall one I had a while back about that kanya candidate. In the dream, I was explaining to her all about Adi Da and what his game was. It seemed that on some level she understood the truth of what I was saying, yet couldn't quite bring herself to fully accept it. "No!...no..no..", she sobbed. I was stunned by how forlorn and devastated she was. I don't know, maybe sometimes one just has to let a person have their belief system.